The
Vatican II invalid rites of ordination and consecration, I agree with this other than Peter says the baptisms are valid if they do the minimal
with the intention of what the church does. Here the major problem is anyone who is a clergy or lay member of the Vatican II church can never
have the intention to do what the true Church does, to presume this is spiritually dangerous. Don't take the chance, do it right so the soul won't end up
in hell.
See the Dimonds site on this article and what I disagree with is
an issue of canonized saints that may have held heresy it cannot be error so not to tread on thin ice. Canonizations are not infallible. I don't know
if St. Alphonsus died in this heresy or not, if he did he is not a saint but would be in hellfire. So I am not going to say where he is because I don't know.
All I know is we cannot say someone is in error especially one as learned as Alphonsus or St. Alphonsus and then call others such as Fathey Fahey a heretic or others
of the last seventy years or so because they believed in the heresy of baptism of desire. Sure they are heretics. But is St. Alphonsus a heretic also?
I took this section from traditio.com because I believe
it is essential to show the new vatican ii sect novus church more about their phony apostate anti-pope who destroyed billions of souls and lives
in his 26 year anti-christ reign.
Yet Benedict-Ratzinger and His Newchurch of the New Order Are Planning to Con-anize the Unsaint JPII-Wojtyla
Implicated as the "Oecumenical Pope" in Charges of Heresy And as the "Pre-Paedophile Pope" in Charges of Subornation of Paedophilia
Who better than the Modernist "Newpope" JPII-Wojtyla to be the unCatholic New Order sect's first Unsaint? Newcardinal Kurt Koch,
Benedict-Ratzinger's appointee as President of the New Order sect's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity,
made it clear again on December 10, 2012, that Ratzinger's "Year of [the New Order] Faith" has at its center the false Vatican II heretical
"doctrine" of "Oecumenism." Ironically, this is one of those Modernist Vatican II doctrines that the Neo-SSPX's Bernie Fellay seems to
eager to embrace.
The Polish Catholic News Agency is reporting on a possible date of October 20, 2013, for the Novus Ordo con-anization of JPII-Wojtyla,
to mark the conclusion of Benedict-Ratzinger's "Year of [the New Order] Faith" and the 35th anniversary of Wojtyla's election as Newpope.
But Wojtyla still needs a second "miracle," because one phony "miracle," rejected by medical doctors, had already been rushed through for his
Novus Ordo "beatification."
Ratzinger and his New Order sect seem to be Hell-bent on rushing Wojtyla's con-anization through before the full truth about this corrupt
Newpope, who personally participated in pagan religious ceremonies, fostered heretical doctrine, and perpetuated as the "Pre-Paedophile Pope"
the sodomy and rape of children by his Newbishops and presbyters, can be properly researched and made publicly known.
There is no denying the fact that not only by word but also by act, JPII-Wojtyla promoted the heretical Vatican II doctrine of "Oecumenism,"
the notion that "we all worship the same god" and that "all gods are equal." In the New Order sect, heretics, schismatics, and infidels are not
supposed to convert to the Catholic Faith. That is considered unnecessary and gauche. As Newpope, Wojtyla set the "Oecumenical" example for the
unCatholic Newchurchers on a multitude of public occasions:
On May 4, 1980, he presided from a straw hut over an ordination ceremony and native Mess of people undulating to the
rhythm of tom-toms, accompanied by accordions and guitars.
In 1981, he sat on his throne while acrobatic performers, dressed in little more than a g-string, performed in the
modernistic Hall of Paul VI at the Vatican.
In February 1982, he presided over a "dance" Mess in Libreville.
On December 11, 1983, he preached in a Lutheran church at Rome.
On May 8, 1984, he presided over a Mess in Papua-New Guinea at which male and female dancers, nude from the
waist up, danced; an aboriginal woman, also nude from the waist up, read the Epistle.
In September 1984, he presided over a Mess at Yellow Knife, Canada, at which a pagan Indian chief invoked
the Great Spirit and presented him at the Offertory with an eagle feather dipped in blood. He put aside
his religious garb and dressed in an Indian costume.
In 1985, he told 50,000 Moslems in Morocco: "We and you believe in the same God, the one God and the only God."
In August 1985, he presided over "dance" Messes in Cameroon and Garoua.
On August 8, 1985, he visited Togo and prayed in a "Sacred Forest" consecrated to the worship of pagan gods and
participated in a pagan initiation ritual in a grove sacred to the pagan animists.
In 1986, he presided over a Mess in Fiji at which the thurifer was an aboriginal dressed only in a loin-cloth;
he is said to have witnessed there a pagan animal sacrifice.
In February 2, 1986, he was marked with cow dung, the "Tilac," the sign of the adorers of the pagan goddess Shiva,
by a Hindu priestess at Bombay. He was received in Delhi with a Hindu ritual called Arathi in 1986, but, on the
contrary, when a Pakistani cricket team arrived in Delhi in 2007, they made it clear to their hosts that they
could not accept Arathi, so they were given bouquets of flowers instead.
On June 24, 1986, he sat with Grand Rabbi Elio Toaff in the sanctuary of the Jewish synagogue at Rome while the
Jewish hymn, "Awaiting the Messiah," was sung. He stood there while the Jews, by that hymn, implicitly denied
that Christ was the Messias.
On October 27, 1986, he participated in an "oecumenical prayer meeting" at Assisi, Italy. At this meeting the Church
of St. Peter, above the relics of the martyr Victorinus, who was killed in A.D. 400 bearing witness to his Catholic
Faith, was given to the Buddhists, who placed a golden statue of Buddha on top of the tabernacle
on the main Novus Ordo "table" together with a banner displaying the words "I go in for Buddha's law."
The Dalai Lama sat with his back to the (putative) Blessed Sacrament removed to the side, and a
statue of Our Lady of Fatima was denied entrance to the church (Il Giorno of October 28, 1986).
At this meeting the Church of San Giorgio was given to the American Indians, who proceeded to introduce
witch-doctors "shaking their enormous feathered head-cloth and invoking Manito, blessed men and women,
by rubbing their heads and backs with a white-feathered fan," while Catholic religious and presbyters
participated. Chickens were beheaded on the altar of St. Claire according to tribal rituals.
Presbyters were "baptized" in the initiation rites of other religions, which amounts to explicit apostacy.
JPII lined up with the representatives of all the religions in the sanctuary of the church of Santa Maria
degli Angeli with olive branches in hand, to signify that peace does not come through Christ,
but indiscriminately through all the founders of any credo whatsoever (Mohammed, Buddha, Confucius, Kali, Christ).
(Il Messaggero of October 27, 1986)
In 1989, he visited Norway and the Scandinavian nations and held an oecumenical service in the cathedral of
Nidaros. (Vatican News Service VIS, of November 18, 2002)
On January 9-10, 1993, he brought together Christian, Muslim, and Jewish leaders for another
"oecumenical prayer meeting" to pray for an end to the war with the Mohammedan Bosnians.
On February 4, 1993, he engaged in dialogues with the high priests and witch doctors of Voodoo.
In 1994, he smeared the pitch from a native tree on his face instead of incensing the Novus Ordo
"table" during a Novus Ordo "beatification" ceremony in Australia.
In 1995, he approved the building of the first Mohammedan minaret in Rome.
In 1995, he took part in the official Smoking Ceremony at Randwick Racecourse in Sydney, Australia.
In December 1996, when the Protestant Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey, and several of his brother
Anglican bishops came to Rome, he gave Carey a gold pectoral cross, the same gift he offers to Novus Ordo
archbishops on their ad limina visits. He offered silver pectoral crosses to the other Anglicans. According to
Catholic theology, Anglican "bishops" aren't really bishops at all, and hence have no business sporting the
symbols of the episcopal office. Even Novus Ordo Notre Dame theologian Richard McBrien has argued that Wojtyla
could thereby be guilty of the canonical offense of falsifying the sacrament of Holy Orders by complicity in the
fiction that the Anglicans really are bishops, an excommunicable offense.
September 27, 1997, on the occasion of the "Eucharistic" Congress in Bologna in preparation for the New
Millennium, he had a special on-stage seat for a rock concert given before 250,000 spectators by rock
star Bob Dylan. After he commented positively on the rock music and the junk culture represented by the concert.
On April 6, 1997, he omitted the Filioque from the Credo on the occasion of the 1700th anniversary
of the Constantinople I Council and on oecumenical occasions. (Eastern Catholic Life)
In 1998, he gave communion, at a private Mass in the Vatican, to the late Rev. Sheila Brown,
who had only shortly before been ordained an Protestant Anglican priestess and who, at that Mass,
wore her "Roman" collar.
On November 23, 1998, he shared the Novus Ordo "table" of St. Peter's with bare-chested,
bare-footed tribesmen from Oceania holding spears, "searching for new impulses." (Associated Press)
In 1999, he gave "communion" to several Lutheran bishops who were his guests during a Mess in
the Newpapal private chapel in Newvatican. (London Tablet)
On June 1, 1999, at the end of an audience, he bowed to the Mohammedan "holy book," the infidel
Koran, presented to him by the delegation, and he kissed it as a sign of respect. The photo of that
gesture has been shown repeatedly on Iraqi television. (June 4, 1999, Fides - Vatican News Service of the
Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples)
On January 18, 2000, he allowed the Protestant Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey,
and the schismatic Eastern Orthodox Metropolitan Athanasius to participate in their official capacities
at the opening of the Holy Door during the 2000 Holy Year.
On January 24, 2002, he hosted yet another "oecumenical prayer meeting" at Assisi for "peace."
This time the leaders included not just the usual Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, and Jews, but also leaders of
"Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Jianism, Confucianism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, and followers of
Tenrikyo and African tribal religions." (Associated Press)
In August 2002, during the "inculturated liturgy" at the Novus Ordo beatification of Juan Bautista and
Jacinto de los Angeles, he allowed an Indian woman to approach him in the sanctuary and rub him down with
smoked herbs that are supposed to purify the subject and exorcise "evil spirits."
On October 6, 2002, schismatic Patriarch Teoctist of the schismatic Romanian Orthodox church arrived in
Rome for the start of a weeklong visit. At a Novus Ordo service on that day, he embraced Teoctist
"in brotherly fashion" before a crowd of 200,000 and ensured that Teoctist was seated in an exact
duplicate of the papal throne. That was not the behavior of someone who believed in his own "papal primacy."
In fact, all the week's choreography seemed designed to make the two prelates seem like equally eminent
heads of churches.
On February 23, 2002, he gave "communion" at a private Mess in Newvatican, to the Protestant Anglican
prime minister of Britain, Tony Blair.
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